Comments on: Popular PHP Frameworks: What’s Your Fav?

By: Jaro

Jaro — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:56:44 +0000

My vote is Django Don’t use PHP. If you’ll try Django, then you’ll find out, that coding in PHP isn’t worth of effort.

Cheers

By: Kris Jordan

Kris Jordan — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:22:20 +0000

For fans of CakePHP who need more performance and a more RESTful framework check out the Recess Framework: http://www.recessframework.org/

By: aditia

aditia — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:37:45 +0000

I’m choosing CakePHP

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By: Michael Kimsal

Michael Kimsal — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:21 +0000

Buck – calm down.

@Nate – IMO, one of the business requirements should be that a framework choice has a moderate degree of community support behind it. So, yeah, “popularity” should enter in to it. Of course this all depends on the business, but I recommended things outside my own comfort zone simply because I think it would serve a client better long term to have something done with a “popular” toolset rather than feeling they’re reliant on me. Whether they *are* or not is not relevant – perception is reality in that case.

By: nate

nate — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:49:32 +0000

Hey Wil,

I absolutely agree with you about the validity (or lack thereof) of these sorts of surveys, as evidenced by http://twitter.com/nateabele/status/1067759043. In the past (as now) we’ve mainly approached them as a community-building exercise — a chance for active community members to pat themselves on the back and take a little pride in the thriving group they’ve helped create. In other words, we try to find some enjoyment in using them as an internal yardstick, rather than trying to prove something to others.

This, of course, is merely my attempt to find some practical value (community development is definitely something we value ) in something that would otherwise be for naught. Because let’s be honest, who in their right mind would evaluate a piece of software based on a popularity contest, as opposed to their business requirements?

Clearly, all of the top three projects listed have large, thriving communities behind them, and none of them are going away any time soon. At the least, I would say CakePHP and ZF are on more or less equal footing in that respect.

By: Wil Sinclair

Wil Sinclair — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:56:38 +0000

Disclaimer: I manage the Zend Framework project at Zend.
These polls are fun, although I wouldn’t encourage anyone to take this as more than a popularity contest. In any case, no one should choose a framework solely based on a poll or its popularity.
I really feel like there is an issue to bring up here, however. These polls are much less fun when those involved with the project try to influence them: http://www.nabble.com/Guys-(and-gals),-we‘re-slackin’-here-td21097505.html. This happened with this poll and the (perhaps more impactful) poll of which PHP framework would get supported in NetBeans. The final count was something like Cake=40 votes, Zend = about the same number as Cake, and Symfony = 300+ votes. Everyone can draw their own conclusions from those numbers.
Project managers, I beseech you: please don’t try to skew these votes by asking your users to vote on them. Not every framework will have someone who does this, leading to very unreliable numbers. I have had multiple community members ask me to post requests to vote on different polls, and I absolutely refuse to do it because I believe it isn’t fair.
Everyone will act according to his or her conscious. I ultimately won’t hold it against Nate or any other framework community member who tries to ‘get out the vote’. But I do suggest that we all invest our time in making our projects better, rather than influencing poll numbers.

Sincerely.
,Wil

By: Levente

Levente — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:00:57 +0000

Me too: kohanaphp

By: Calm down Buck Lay

Calm down Buck Lay — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:19:05 +0000

Hey Buck lay, it’s just an article. If you don’t have time to read poorly conceived blog articles then you sure as hell shouldn’t be commenting so much on poorly conceived articles, as well as doing searches (WITH OR WITHOUT SAFE SEARCH ON) about the facts in them. I am a beginning php developer and this seems interesting to me. Shouldn’t you be working?

By: Douglas Brown

Douglas Brown — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:07:32 +0000

“btw, I have Safesearch on..” umm Okay?

The poll is meant to give a little insight to the future of the framework popularity. So far with the voting results it seems that the Zend framework is more popular.

I’m not exactly sure where all of this is coming from, I certainly am learning something from watching the poll results coming in. I’m sure others are too. Thanks for your input.