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	<title>Comments on: Zend Framework vs CakePHP Framework</title>
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		<title>By: markg</title>
		<link>http://www.brownphp.com/2008/12/zend-framework-vs-cakephp-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>markg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely love ZF. I did made it as a coding standard in our company. I built our own framework on top of ZF, and it&#039;s fantastic. The only reason that make &quot;ZF&quot; bloat as what other people say, they just don&#039;t know how to do it. It may be hard at first, but when you examined closely, ZF could just be the best. 

Who else knows better how to build a faster framework for PHP other than the ones creating PHP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely love ZF. I did made it as a coding standard in our company. I built our own framework on top of ZF, and it&#8217;s fantastic. The only reason that make &#8220;ZF&#8221; bloat as what other people say, they just don&#8217;t know how to do it. It may be hard at first, but when you examined closely, ZF could just be the best. </p>
<p>Who else knows better how to build a faster framework for PHP other than the ones creating PHP?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Gavin William&#039;s comments. I have used both cakePHP and ZF. Cake does a lot of automagic stuff which is sometimes hard to track down in the code, but it is very quick to get something running, like a CMS. The documentation on Cake is great, better than Zend I thought. In any case there is a lot of documentation in the code base and a pretty good IRC channel, not to mention quite a few blog posts out there from the cake community on how to achieve certain tasks.

What I don&#039;t like about Cake is too  much of the automagic stuff, as someone mentioned the classes can be very heavy and the cache will burn you a couple of times at least :-) Also not that keen on all the sql queries to build model classes from the db. But thats just personal preference and mostly those are minor issues. It is awesome to get up and running very quickly with an app and the codebase is considerably lighter than Zend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Gavin William&#8217;s comments. I have used both cakePHP and ZF. Cake does a lot of automagic stuff which is sometimes hard to track down in the code, but it is very quick to get something running, like a CMS. The documentation on Cake is great, better than Zend I thought. In any case there is a lot of documentation in the code base and a pretty good IRC channel, not to mention quite a few blog posts out there from the cake community on how to achieve certain tasks.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t like about Cake is too  much of the automagic stuff, as someone mentioned the classes can be very heavy and the cache will burn you a couple of times at least <img src='http://www.brownphp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Also not that keen on all the sql queries to build model classes from the db. But thats just personal preference and mostly those are minor issues. It is awesome to get up and running very quickly with an app and the codebase is considerably lighter than Zend.</p>
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		<title>By: Byron Whitlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Byron Whitlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hate cake. If you are new to programming or php maybe it is better for you, but as a seasoned professional, I hate the automagic way it does things. It is very cool when you build the tutorial, but when it comes to a real application, you will end up pulling your hair out trying to figure out how it does realitvly simple things. I like Zend, if you know what you are doing it lets you do it faster, not hold your hand and never let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hate cake. If you are new to programming or php maybe it is better for you, but as a seasoned professional, I hate the automagic way it does things. It is very cool when you build the tutorial, but when it comes to a real application, you will end up pulling your hair out trying to figure out how it does realitvly simple things. I like Zend, if you know what you are doing it lets you do it faster, not hold your hand and never let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: Speedy G</title>
		<link>http://www.brownphp.com/2008/12/zend-framework-vs-cakephp-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-2479</link>
		<dc:creator>Speedy G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here you go Hetal,

FrameWork &#124; Good &#124; Bad &#124;
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Cake      &#124;      &#124;  X  &#124;
ZF        &#124;   X  &#124;     &#124;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you go Hetal,</p>
<p>FrameWork | Good | Bad |<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Cake      |      |  X  |<br />
ZF        |   X  |     |<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: hetal sagar</title>
		<link>http://www.brownphp.com/2008/12/zend-framework-vs-cakephp-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-2425</link>
		<dc:creator>hetal sagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone summarize this comparision on tabular format or can provide a link where it is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone summarize this comparision on tabular format or can provide a link where it is</p>
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		<title>By: Speedy G</title>
		<link>http://www.brownphp.com/2008/12/zend-framework-vs-cakephp-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-2061</link>
		<dc:creator>Speedy G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a fan of Cake.  The component and model code you end up writing becomes useless should you need to port to another framework.  Might as well just write everything as stand alone classes and put them in the vendor folder.  Also, for any high availability site it creates too much overhead.  Try a dump of $this from a controller - probably crash your browser.  It&#039;s model caching will burn you.  Actually, to be honest I hate Cake.

My vote is for Zend Framework.  ZF can be used as a MVC or more as an external Library, a la PEAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a fan of Cake.  The component and model code you end up writing becomes useless should you need to port to another framework.  Might as well just write everything as stand alone classes and put them in the vendor folder.  Also, for any high availability site it creates too much overhead.  Try a dump of $this from a controller &#8211; probably crash your browser.  It&#8217;s model caching will burn you.  Actually, to be honest I hate Cake.</p>
<p>My vote is for Zend Framework.  ZF can be used as a MVC or more as an external Library, a la PEAR.</p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Thank you anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Thank you anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... About CodeIgniter?  I don&#039;t really have any experience with it.  Hopefully, someone else can give a decent review of their experience with CodeIgniter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; About CodeIgniter?  I don&#8217;t really have any experience with it.  Hopefully, someone else can give a decent review of their experience with CodeIgniter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
		<link>http://www.brownphp.com/2008/12/zend-framework-vs-cakephp-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-1017</link>
		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is you opnion about CodeIgniter?
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is you opnion about CodeIgniter?<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: cristianciofu (Cristian Ciofu)</title>
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		<dc:creator>cristianciofu (Cristian Ciofu)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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